Honestly, reading that a 100 year old vegan heart surgeon, who has been living a vegan lifestyle for 50 years, retired only 5 years ago at the age of 95 raised my attention. I kept thinking: “How in the world could he manage to perform such a stressful profession until that age while so many people have to give up their profession long before their retirement age due to sicknesses and diseases.” Definitely, he must have done something right in his life and after reading his story and listening to the interview below of being vegan for 50 years the reason for his physical and mental activity up to that biblical age became obvious to me. Unfortunately, so many Americans suffer from serious health issues as a shocking number of them hardly eat vegetables but rather seem to compensate them with high amounts of meat. Against this background, they are inexorably heading for their personal health catastrophe. Dr. Ellsworth Wareham makes it crystal clear that the change of diet is going to change the health direction of one’s life. Unfortunately, many people seem to react very sensitive when they are challenged to revise their diet habits. However, once they do so they are rewarded extraordinarily as the vegan lifestyle has the power to reduce any susceptibility to depression significantly, energize your body and optimise your overall well-being just to name a few benefits.
“Veganism is a very fine form of nutrition. It’s a little extreme to tell a person who is using flesh foods that you’re going to take everything entirely away from them. When I was in practice in medicine, I would tell the patients that the vegetable based diet was the healthy way to go, and to keep away from the animal products as much as possible. People are very sensitive about what they eat. You can talk to people about exercising relaxation, good mental attitude and they will accept that. But you talk to them about what they are eating and people are very sensitive about that. If an individual is willing to listen, I will try to explain to them on a scientific basis of how I think it’s better for them.” – Dr. Ellsworth Wareham
Below is a video clip of Dr. Ellsworth Wareham, a 100 year old recently retired heart surgeon who has been a vegan for half of his life (5o years).
Why Vegetarian And Vegan Diets Are Becoming More Popular
This 100 year old heart surgeon isn’t the only one, Kim A. Williams, M.D., incoming president of the American College of Cardiology has also adopted a vegan diet.
World renowned figures throughout history, from Plato and Nietzsche all the way to pop icons like Paul Mcartney and Bob Marley, to political leaders like Gandhi and and Benjamin Franklin, have all advocated a vegetarian diet. There is no doubt that the influence of these kinds of “celebrity” figures, along with outspoken animal rights advocates, have played a role in the rise of vegetarianism in recent years, but the main reason for its recent popularity really has to do with the way it makes people feel and the science behind it. There is no shortage of studies demonstrating the clear health benefits of vegetarian and vegan diets, and many of them outline how these benefits increase the more an individual decreases the amount of animal products they consume.
That being said, even if you are not an advocate of a vegetarian or vegan diet, it’s important to note that a very high and alarming percentage of Americans eat hardly any vegetables whatsoever. According to the Wall Street Journal, in 2011, approximately 80% of Americans who ate meat rarely consumed vegetables at all. (source)
“Studies are confirming the health benefits of meat-free eating. Nowadays, plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses.” – Harvard Medical School (source)
For example, the American Dietetic Association weighed in with a position paper, concluding that “appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases.” (Journal of the American Dietetic Association, July 2009) (source)
These diseases include heart disease, cancer, diabetes, and more.
Again, there are literally a multitude of studies showing the benefits of vegetarian and/or vegan diets. If you are still skeptical, a quick little research session will make the matter abundantly clear.
It’s good to see research into vegetarianism and veganism confirm these benefits, whereas in previous years they focused solely on the problems that can arise from potential nutritional deficiencies. That being said, if you are going to make this transition, it is very important to be aware of your body’s requirements and what nutrients you may be giving up. You will have to learn the plant-based sources of these nutrients.
If this is something you are interested in, we encourage you to further your research. If you try it out, you should not feel tired, lacking energy or strength, or feel depressed. In fact, it should be the exact opposite. If something like this happens to you, you are most likely deficient in nutrients, so make sure to adjust your meals accordingly.”
Dr. Wareham also advocates for a vegan lifestyle to be the best remedy for avoiding and even removing coronary artery diseases. So, if you have ever wanted to see the difference between a vegan and a non-vegan artery visually, then make sure to click here!
Source: Collective Evolution
So interesting ! Nice to hear his information from an MD. Very well said.
Sean Poole
Darnell Armoogam
Words of wisdom! ♡♡♡
Thank you!
Jay Sablan ♡
Daniel Buettner
Tom Bunszel
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/new-jersey-woman-110-credits-longevity-miller-high-life-article-1.2313905. Or
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-sh-veterans-day-2013-veteran-107-to-meet-obama-20131111-story.html
Octavio Perez
Jason Joseph
Bad$#%&!@*dude
Morgan Strenfel
But he also lived 50 years not being a vegan
but but but. how many ppl do you know to live to 100 years now days
About 3
Dalton Michael Hendrix 🙂
Tiffany Goodwyn good read
Zedekiah Love
Brittany Caparrelli
Karen Day Hightower
By Emily Brandon Jan. 7, 2013, at 9:30 a.m. + More.
A growing number of Americans are living to age 100. Nationwide, the centenarian population has grown 65.8 percent over the past three decades, from 32,194 people who were age 100 or older in 1980 to 53,364 centenarians in 2010, according to new Census Bureau data.Jan 7, 2013…doesn’t seem so amazing now, does it?
Correlation does not imply causation
It’s almost like him being vegan and living to 100 is a complete coincidence. Especially when you consider all 3 of the hundred year olds I know eat red meat daily
❤️ thanks for sharing. ❤️
Corrie Barkman
Karen Day Hightower You’re more than welcome!
<3 this so much
Ryan Richetti
Yeah they might live a 100, but in what conditions? I work in a nursing home and all of them take medications every day, they are always constipated, etc.
My 101 year old Aunt. Vegan for 75 years..And that is her making quilts for those in need at her church community center❤️
Jay Cohen
Ya baby.
Marissa Lane
Dr. Wareham also advocates for a vegan lifestyle to be the best remedy for avoiding and even removing coronary artery diseases. So, if you have ever wanted to see the difference between a vegan and a non-vegan artery visually, this post might interest you: http://www.goingveganhealthbenefits.com/the-top-nine-vegan-foods-that-that-prevent-coronary-artery-disease/
She is amazing! And Sharp as a tack
Megan
Megan Scott
I’m pretty damn sure none of the other 100 year olds were working as a heart surgeon until age 95.
Tyler Kenworthy
Definitly words of wisdom. Thank you.
Anytime 🙂
Justin Werner
Oh that’s excellent
Awesome!!!
Wonder what his blood type is.
Love it!
Jelani Kokayi
Good stuff
Britni Proulx
Heather Lawson Mikey Roberts
Aleshia Parker
I wouldn’t want him as my surgeon lmao
How is that even allowed?
Most people that live to be over 100 are not vegan. And some can walk and are healthy. Being a vegan won’t help joint problems.
Actually, going vegan has helped my joints tremendously.
Obviously, his mental and physical condition must have been outstanding up to that age so nobody minded to let him work so long 🙂
Patty Jackson
Bless your heart. Can you show me some research stating a plant based diet does nothing to help joint problems? http://www.forksoverknives.com/how-i-overcame-crippling-arthritis-and-returned-to-elite-level-fitness/
the most recent study, published in Complementary Therapies in Medicine in 2015, 600 participants followed a vegan diet for three weeks which significantly reduced C-reactive protein, a key marker for acute and chronic inflammation. I
. However, in the larger study (53 participants), the patients followed a vegan diet for three and a half months and experienced significant improvement in tender and swollen joints, pain, duration of morning stiffness and grip strength than the people in a control group who consumed an ordinary diet. The vegan group transitioned to a lacto-vegetarian diet for nine months. At the one year follow-up, they continued to have improved symptoms compared with the control group. In another study published in Arthritis Research and Care in 2008, 30 patients with active RA who followed a gluten-free vegan diet for three months experienced reduced inflammation.
http://nutritionfacts.org/2013/05/16/plant-based-diets-for-rheumatoid-arthritis/
I’m 100% sure it would not help at all lmao
No studies needed
http://www.arthritis.org/living-with-arthritis/arthritis-diet/anti-inflammatory/vegan-and-vegetarian-diets.php
Why do you keep posting about arthritis?
I’m not talking about that. If you’re under 5’8″ then your input does not mean anything.
Maybe not, but you know you have not supported the horrible meat industry
I don’t buy my meat from the stores so it doesn’t really affect me
Brooke Nunn Why are you even on this page?
Brooke Nunn What? People who say that other people’s input doesn’t mean anything are not trying to engage in {meaningful} conversation, they are trolling. I suggest you open your mind and heart and research a little. and, for good measure: #govegan
I don’t need research. I know what I’m talking about. We own a farm.
You all just go by media with is incorrect a lot of the time.
Everything on the Internet is true, ya know haha
These pages make me laugh
*which
2016..we can do it
Trying to cut down on oil
How did my cholesterol go from very elevated to perfectly normal on a vegan diet if it is of no benefit?
That varies from person to person
Mine is great 😉
It just makes sense.
Maybe one day you poor people will go out into the real world instead of “researching” everything. Make sure it’s not windy though because you all will fly away lmao
Btw, Julie. No, I’m not trying to engage in “meaningful” conversation. The comments are irrelevant to what I said, so yes, they do not mean anything. As I said, if you’re under 5’8″ then your input does not matter.
I’m 5’8″ so I guess mine DOES matter…. Lol- bye
Maybe I should say 5’10”
You’re still short enough to not have joint problems
30 doesn’t make sense. Irrelevant. You’re dismissed lol
I don’t remember having joint problems in 5th grade. So yeah, 5’10” would fit more. But it’s genetic.
There’s no video interview. All of the video links take me to a signup page for Showtime.
I’ll bet there is more 100 year old meat eaters then Vegans
i bet there are! BUT how is their quality of life? and hopefully with change we can help the numbers change and also help the life expectancy& quality of life for the Animals
Madeline Schlegel
Rubell Shumahine
The majority of Centurions eat very little to no meat. The rest are damn lucky or live 30 extra years sick and life extended through big Pharma.
Mary Adele Hieronimus
doing fine with the vegetarian way but haven’t gone vegan
Well I’m 5′ 4″ and have rhumitoid arthritis so u don’t know what this size thing doesn’t count means and yes a vegan diet helps a lot.
Ah. Obviously you don’t know.
What is hilarious is that my sister doesn’t eat meat and hers are worse than mine.
WHY do you think people under 5’8 don’t have joint problems?
I do not see a video clip to watch.
They do. Just not the same as ours.
Celia Renteria
who in the world would want to wait until 95 to retire?
I would share this, however , all my animal eating friends have blocked me.
My father in law was a minister, who after a stroke that forced his retirement at 51, continued until his death at 85 following his calling as a minister. Also my step father in law who practiced heart surgery until he retired at 95—-Not the same man as this post—When you find a calling, retirement is not an option
What an awesome attitude 🙂
Meria Heller
#goveg
I have not! I am cutting back too!
Taylor Hobbs
Therese
Diet is everything.
Richard
Richard Burriola
“Do what you love and you’ll never work a day in your life”
There are so so sooo many other things to do in life besides work. I retired at 36 to raise children and live off the land…and hopefully raise grandchildren and love life. If you do what you love, then don’t retire, but most of us…99.999% of us hate what we do and would change it in a heart beat if we could. I did.
An American investment banker was at the pier of a small coastal Mexican village when a small boat with just one fisherman docked. Inside the small boat were several large yellowfin tuna. The American complimented the Mexican on the quality of his fish and asked how long it took to catch them.
The Mexican replied, “only a little while. The American then asked why didn’t he stay out longer and catch more fish? The Mexican said he had enough to support his family’s immediate needs. The American then asked, “but what do you do with the rest of your time?”
The Mexican fisherman said, “I sleep late, fish a little, play with my children, take siestas with my wife, Maria, stroll into the village each evening where I sip wine, and play guitar with my amigos. I have a full and busy life.” The American scoffed, “I am a Harvard MBA and could help you. You should spend more time fishing and with the proceeds, buy a bigger boat. With the proceeds from the bigger boat, you could buy several boats, eventually you would have a fleet of fishing boats. Instead of selling your catch to a middleman you would sell directly to the processor, eventually opening your own cannery. You would control the product, processing, and distribution. You would need to leave this small coastal fishing village and move to Mexico City, then LA and eventually New York City, where you will run your expanding enterprise.”
The Mexican fisherman asked, “But, how long will this all take?”
To which the American replied, “15 – 20 years.”
“But what then?” Asked the Mexican.
The American laughed and said, “That’s the best part. When the time is right you would announce an IPO and sell your company stock to the public and become very rich, you would make millions!”
“Millions – then what?”
The American said, “Then you would retire. Move to a small coastal fishing village where you would sleep late, fish a little, play with your kids, take siestas with your wife, stroll to the village in the evenings where you could sip wine and play your guitar with your amigos.”
I’ve always loved this story and I am so happy to have seen it here again for the first time in a long time 🙂
What awesome person! I can totally see your point with zero empirical evidence to back it up. I can even respect the lack of care to even look into other’s evidence. You really have it all figured out, how inspiring. #continuetokillanimals
I will lmao
I do not care to look up their “evidence”.
EVERYTHING ON THE INTERNET IS TRUE, GUYS.
Lmfao you guys are hilarious
Like the article says….people are very sensitive when it come to their food….therefore mock and ridicule others who choose to eat differently. ..no one is forcing you to eat vegan. ..but it just might be what someone else chooses. No need to ridicule
It’s best to work into old age as it helps to keep your mind sharp. I hope to work for as long as possible in my chosen career.
Wow this is amazing. Thanks for sharing!
He was healthy, had good energy, and loved his job.
I eat lots of animals. We can be friends LOL
The most ignorant post .. Read and educated yourself Brooke.
Lolol you poor vegans
You don’t even realize the money that you spend on vegetables is also going to the meat industry.
90% of those farmers that grow those vegetables also have a part in the meat industry. They don’t just grow vegetables hahaha
Why can’t I see video?
Tony Peavey
seriously you want to work until you are 95…. Ohhh Kay…….
What a great article and when you love what you do it does not feel like work.
Amazing!!!!
Alana Brown Im pretty sure there are more arrogant Vegan Grammar Nazis too….lol
What makes you doubt it?
What is the Percentage of each and who lives longer and healthier Ms. Alana?
Im pretty sure some vegans think Meat eaters end up at McDonalds for dinner everyday. Just like some meat eaters think all vegans are starving to death.
You can eat healthy with both diets. Free range grass feed meats are proven to be very healthy.
Im just saying, 1vegan heart surgeon doesn’t mean this is a fact for all….
But I would love to see your statistics?
Smh. Wow.
Yeah, they didn’t even know it
I’m 5’11 does that count? Healthy and vegan 🙂
Yeah.. like the article said…people are sensitive about their foods..so go ahead and mock and ridicule just because you don’t choose to eat a vegan diet. No one is forcing you to Brooke, no need to ridicule someone else’s choice.
Hahahahahahahahahaha ^^^^
Tell that to the others. That is not meant to be directed toward me for sure.
Cade A Kunugi
Edward Max Maxwell
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Chris Seeley Cheryl Seeley
I’m not sure if it’s from a clip in a doc called In Defense of Food. But I swear in the doc he said he lived on a vegetarian based diet.
Michele Joy cool huh?
My grandparents lived almost till 100. My grandad did eat a lot of veggies and fruits out of his garden, but he also ate meat and everything else in moderation. He was active and didn’t get overweight. He also smoked most of his life.
My goal is to help 5-10 new people achieve their goals! Will you be one of them?
✅ Organic
✅ Vegan
✅ Kosher
✅ Diabetic friendly
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Lyn Heeg Rose, here’s your 100 year old vegan!
This is so true!!!
Karen Goodfellow
Jim Davis another smart read
Elias DeFaria
The statistics are that the most people on the planet to live over 100 years old are people who live in what is called Blue Zones. There are 5 of these zones. Loma Linda, California is one of them and the town is predominantly plant based, non meat. They do not even serve meat at the hospital there.
Mona Ostrowski. Maia Ostrowski. Aisha Ostrowski.
Morgan Blair Hill dammit!
Andrew Lashlee
Loretta Williford, Johnny Galaviz
How is it possible to lose 50 it’s in such a short time?
Carol Patrick I sent you a private message
Then they aren’t your friends! Their loss!
Tyler Frederick
You didnt tag anyone lol
Mona Ostrowski. Maia Ostrowski. Aisha Ostrowski
Thanks Tyler Frederick…that time it worked!
Thanks, Renee McCain.
Jeremy Olaker
““Studies are confirming the health benefits of meat-free eating. Nowadays, plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses.” – Harvard Medical School “
Lance watch
Read eat to live by dr furhman…
Go green love vegetarian n live healthy life as well as be kind to innocent creatures of this Earth which can,t speak or express their pain .thanx a lot .happy new year 2016 .
Kat Saed
Kari Leigh Eads
Mari Kelseigh
If you love what you do, why not?
let me know how you feel about working when you are at age 70, and healthy and love your job, seriously let me know, have you every been around many that are in their 70s? My great grandfather was around when i was a teen and i used to help him, because many things he wanted to do he couldn’t but still had the desire, he was 96 when he passed, the fact is, he just wasn’t capable, but if you want to pay taxes in income until you are 95 awesome, just don’t expect to allow you to drive to work 🙂 they will block you at the eye exam around 80+
He looks like he is in his 70’s! Amazing
Rodney Jeanty
Khalid Rothschild-Shakur
Mary Sorensen Corey Sorensen here he is!
Well then hire me a personal chef too cook us three meals a day. 🙂
Kathy Darvishian
Erin Rothchild
Natasha Lobacheva
Reanne Yancey
Am I missing the link for video??? Where is it?
Thank you very much for the hint! For what reason ever the video wasn’t showing up on the website for a few hours. However, this has been fixed now. You can watch the video now. Enjoy 🙂
Fantastic. I will try again. Great read.
Hi you are looking so well you will get a long life grandfather keep going good
Cherie Varian
Bradley Seidel watchhh
one more reason why being a vegan is the only way you to go
Awesome
Blake Hunter
Wow! This is fabulous! He looks great and healthy too!
Tim Westerside
Brian Bergman
Yea baby!
Clint Russell
Tim Tialdo
Robin Van Pelt Johnson
Kurt Lajcin
Wow! Very inspiring! My new idol 🙂
What a sharpie! I love him and his wisdom!
Can’t argue with living proof.
Julie Schonfeld
My hero and role model. It’s sad that so many people fail to even consider that they could live to 100. Much less that they could do it and be healthy and active! So inspiring.
Genetics play a huge role in a person’s health and longevity. Being vegan is correlation and correlation does not equal causation.
Not true at all. Genetics plays a very small role in disease, around 2-3% in most cases. There have been numerous studies where some one from a country with low cancer and heart disease rates, like Japan (where they eat mostly plant foods) moves to a Western country like the US, adopts a Western diet of high animal products, and their levels of diseases like heart disease, cancer, diabetes, osteoporosis, goes way up to match typical western disease rates. Disease mainly comes from our diets.
John White… Share this with mom pls……Sun Izout…this is a good one to share
Amazing❤️❤️
My grandmother lived to 105 as a wine drinking carnivore. What’s your point?
That she got lucky
Nope. Her sister lived to be over 100. Several sibling advanced age. My mother is a very active 92 and most likely will live to be a healthy 100. My father’s siblings well into their 90s. It’s genetic more than anything.
Fraser Hughes
Did she work until she was 95? Is she in a wheelchair? How many drugs is she on?
I have know elderly doctors who “retired” by working with doctors without borders.
She volunteered regularly at the local community center almost until she died. Two medications. One for glaucoma and one for blood pressure. She had a walker to help with balance. Dementia became a problem late (she was old), but she always had her sense of humor. Sorry. Or family trends to live to be old with few serious health problems. Genetics is the best explanation. We certainly aren’t vegans.
my mother will be 88 on her birthday … gets around better than many 88 year olds. She eats what she likes in moderation. The medications she’s on is because no Doctor has ever weened her off. She has surpassed her mother and her sister. She loves to play cards and does cross word puzzles to keep her mind sharp. God has the final say not us …
I think attitude has a lot. My mom is 92 and fun to go out with. She’s up for most anything. Minor medication and a recent pacemaker turned her into the energizer bunny. At 88 she took a trip to Antarctica. No problem crawling in and out of zodiacs.
Vincent Hawkins
That’s great about your grandmother and mum, it actually made me smile reading about them. But that still doesn’t mean all the harm we are causing to animals and the environment is worth it when we can live happily and healthily without animal products. If you could live your life without harming anyone, why wouldn’t you?
sharing!! XO
Santiago E. Tejada
Hannah McCarthy he is in our team.
Richard Case a 98 yr old vegan! ☺️ £100….. Is heading my way
I would rather die at 70 with a steak in my stomach and a glass of red in my hand!
So he’s 98, not 100. And there are plenty of people who eat meat, like anything, good in moderation. You don’t need an Internet click bait article to validate your life choices, make an informed decision for yourself about what you want and how you want to live. While I eat this massive burger.
Ash Carter
This is why I have chosen the vegan diet. He is living proof! “Just do eet!”
Sean Meagher
Daniel Rashed
im all for a slave society that extends to 95 as long as you work, you don’t need to draw the Social Security that you are made to pay into, 🙂 sounds like i will hear “i know people who made bricks from straw, because the mud was good for their skin” 🙂 heavy heavy sarcasm, there are plenty that work until they die, that is called debt 🙂
^^Elon is right!^^ There’s a whole new field called epigenetics…where they are finding out that lifestyle can EFFECT your genetic expression…*some things* like eye color cannot be changed but genes for diseases CAN be altered by lifestyle, most importantly what we EAT!
2-3%? Where is your source on that?
Jean Pidacks, read this!
More doctors should give that advice. Bob’s dr just gives him cholesterol meds, no healthy advice.
Bob needs to read this too. If doctors aren’t giving him nutritional info, that’s unfortunate but he can do some reading on his own and make dietary changes that would allow him to ditch the cholesterol meds!
I read articles to him all the time. If he heard it directly from his dr, it would carry more weight. When I cook onions, & veggies it gags him.
He has a stomach like chase.
They don’t have stomachs any different than ours, that’s a silly excuse.
Melanie Perry , it’s kind of like when I hear someone throw up, it gags me & I feel like I will t u, too. One time Chase was trick or treating & stepped in dog poop, & the smell made him throw up right on the spot. I believe it is real.
Seen this aha
Gives me incentive to keep going x
I’m still skeptical but if bob can’t overcome his aversion to veggies or any other healthy foods, he will probably end up in an ER like dad, having major intervention. so he’ll have to decide which is worse – choking down food he doesn’t like or the alternative…
Trust me, I’ve been telling him for 13 years now that he eats way too much of the wrong food. He’s an adult, 56, I can’t control him. Is your father eating healthier?
I don’t think so, he’s eating better than he did before but he still has a lot of room for improvement, for sure. He did join the ymca for a year, which is good.
Alison Mcilhatton
Konrad Brand
Dion Leif Santana
Cindi Herrera
Wow! His mind is beautifully intact too! My new hero. ☺️
Nebojsa Bjelobrk
Stephen Rose
BrucenShayne Seltzer
What an amazing inspirational man
Annie Villalta-Burgett
Keith Mills
Lora
João Miguel
Amazing
Oh really
Heather Beckett???
Obviously suits him!
Paleo suits me!
Do whatever works for you I say!
one for us Cindy Ducey
Étienne
Leigh Harrison
Adam Mullamphy a bit of light reading 😉
GO VEGAN.
Barry Paul Hoy
Stasia Oh:))
awesome!! you in 75 years 😉
Stasia Oh and you;)
Joy Coleman
Absolutely!!! Genetics has nothing to do with these man made diseases!!! Cancer is not hereditary !
Vivian Ramsay Jen MacNeil
Shawn Hann
still driving at 101-incredibe man!
Duong Tran
Need aome vitamin b12 babe
Chelsea Shelton
Andrew Shaw
Edwina Douglass Donna Rissman
Pretty amazing. Just looked him up – he’s now 101. Tim Shaw & Nikki Jerard should watch this too.
Helena Madeira
Patricia Augustine
Tyler Baker
Lala VS
Michelle Piccolo
Lucinda Ludbrook White havnt read it, but like this comment so I can read it later x
Kylie Crinnian Lindsay Herbst
Nana
Charlotte Swatton Libby Robinson
When dad says for me to tell him why his cardiologist encourages white flesh he should read this Vicky Karefylakis
Also the fact that dad has a cardiologist is also concerning and something to think about Vicky Karefylakis